he would be competing with things that illinois can't do, detroit can't do, california can't do. he's the guy who did what a lot of failing big states, new york, hasn't been able to do. he did it working where the democrat house and senate guys. so the new governors, scott walker who took on organized labor, chris christie, so he, scott walker, both of these guys have more accomplishments as governor than bush did, partially because the bar was lower when bush was there. and he had a pre-reagan republican party, guys who joined as democrats and weren't quite with the program. walker had a more republican legislature in wisconsin. >> i like the idea of all of them being vocal to help define the party instead of just having one person or a detractor do it. i think it's a great bench. >> there is a difference between everybody out there being very vocal and everybody out there tearing each other up. >> the problem with the republicans right now is you have those people, you also have the rand pauls, the ted cruise otherwis kruz oigs of the party that are pushing a message of exclusi